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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>I just discovered this blog today, though my wife and I have lived here in Dublin for about a year, and in the East Bay for most of our lives.  Before I put in my two cents, let me see if I can get a few things straight:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) People are angry that Mayor Lockhart has emphasized higher-density housing, i.e., condominums.  People want to see a lot more SFRs built instead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) One of the perceived drawbacks to condos and other forms of higher-density housing is that they introduce a criminal element, if I am not mistaken.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) BART is apparently in some way bad for the city, because it too introduces a criminal element (again, if I am interpreting these comments correctly).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, my responses:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1)  It&#039;s understandable that some people might object to the apparent urbanizing of some parts of Dublin.  Higher profiles means views impaired for many people, particularly in single-family residences.  However, some factors suggest that this was inevitable.  For one, Dublin is situated right at the intersection of two busy freeways.  It&#039;s kind of hard not to notice the flyover connecting South 680 to East 580, even from a few miles away.  The high-density areas aren&#039;t significantly taller than that span.  Also, BART arrived here a few years back, and some people like the idea of using their cars a little less.  Higher-density residential areas and transit villages help make this possible.  Being close to BART is a real selling point for many people, and higher-density units near BART means more people can enjoy that flexibility.  My wife rode BART to the A&#039;s game last night.  This is not a bad thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) In the condos where we live (Elan), there isn&#039;t any more crime than anywhere else in Dublin.  In fact, there is probably a bit less.  No one here is getting mugged.  Everyone we have met here has been friendly and courteous. We are a couple of teachers who probably would have been priced out of the market if we had wanted a home at any time other than this recession. The biggest problem we have to worry about is people not knowing which way the garage doors open.  We&#039;ve had to replace two so far.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3)  As I mentioned before, the presence of BART is not a bad thing.  Many cities in the Bay Area have access to BART without attracting the criminal element.  Do you hear about crime waves in Orinda and Lafayette?  No, not exactly, and yet they&#039;ve had BART since the beginning.  There is no reason why Dublin has to be any different.  The bank robberies in fact tend to be committed by people in cars, and from out of town.  I recently heard of a drug addict from San Jose who was caught after holding up a bank here in Dublin.  Again, not caused by BART.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I will readily agree that this city needs to do a better job of attracting businesses that are not merely retail-based.  There is a lot of that space already (though I do think we need a cafe or a pizza place in our neck of the woods).  But at the same time, is it really so terrible that some condos have been built here?  This is the trend in cities that already have BART stations, and it makes sense on a number of levels.  Look at the Pleasant Hill station, for example.  There is some huge development going on right next to the station--because the station is already there, and that&#039;s a big selling point for businesses and homeowners.  It&#039;s expensive to expand BART to places like Tracy and Brentwood.  It&#039;s a lot less expensive to just build up where the existing system already is.  Walnut Creek has suffered no loss of prestige because of mass transit; on the contrary, it has probably attracted more shoppers because of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I for one would rather live here than in Windemere.  My wife and I used to live in the Cornerstone apartments (near Gayle Ranch) which were far from everything, and the area was clearly overbuilt.  We can keep digging into hillsides and sprawling our suburbs out over distant horizons, or we can build a little more intelligently within the lines that are already drawn.  It&#039;s a pretty simple decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just discovered this blog today, though my wife and I have lived here in Dublin for about a year, and in the East Bay for most of our lives.  Before I put in my two cents, let me see if I can get a few things straight:</p>
<p>1) People are angry that Mayor Lockhart has emphasized higher-density housing, i.e., condominums.  People want to see a lot more SFRs built instead.</p>
<p>2) One of the perceived drawbacks to condos and other forms of higher-density housing is that they introduce a criminal element, if I am not mistaken.</p>
<p>3) BART is apparently in some way bad for the city, because it too introduces a criminal element (again, if I am interpreting these comments correctly).</p>
<p>Now, my responses:</p>
<p>1)  It&#39;s understandable that some people might object to the apparent urbanizing of some parts of Dublin.  Higher profiles means views impaired for many people, particularly in single-family residences.  However, some factors suggest that this was inevitable.  For one, Dublin is situated right at the intersection of two busy freeways.  It&#39;s kind of hard not to notice the flyover connecting South 680 to East 580, even from a few miles away.  The high-density areas aren&#39;t significantly taller than that span.  Also, BART arrived here a few years back, and some people like the idea of using their cars a little less.  Higher-density residential areas and transit villages help make this possible.  Being close to BART is a real selling point for many people, and higher-density units near BART means more people can enjoy that flexibility.  My wife rode BART to the A&#39;s game last night.  This is not a bad thing.</p>
<p>2) In the condos where we live (Elan), there isn&#39;t any more crime than anywhere else in Dublin.  In fact, there is probably a bit less.  No one here is getting mugged.  Everyone we have met here has been friendly and courteous. We are a couple of teachers who probably would have been priced out of the market if we had wanted a home at any time other than this recession. The biggest problem we have to worry about is people not knowing which way the garage doors open.  We&#39;ve had to replace two so far.</p>
<p>3)  As I mentioned before, the presence of BART is not a bad thing.  Many cities in the Bay Area have access to BART without attracting the criminal element.  Do you hear about crime waves in Orinda and Lafayette?  No, not exactly, and yet they&#39;ve had BART since the beginning.  There is no reason why Dublin has to be any different.  The bank robberies in fact tend to be committed by people in cars, and from out of town.  I recently heard of a drug addict from San Jose who was caught after holding up a bank here in Dublin.  Again, not caused by BART.</p>
<p>I will readily agree that this city needs to do a better job of attracting businesses that are not merely retail-based.  There is a lot of that space already (though I do think we need a cafe or a pizza place in our neck of the woods).  But at the same time, is it really so terrible that some condos have been built here?  This is the trend in cities that already have BART stations, and it makes sense on a number of levels.  Look at the Pleasant Hill station, for example.  There is some huge development going on right next to the station&#8211;because the station is already there, and that&#39;s a big selling point for businesses and homeowners.  It&#39;s expensive to expand BART to places like Tracy and Brentwood.  It&#39;s a lot less expensive to just build up where the existing system already is.  Walnut Creek has suffered no loss of prestige because of mass transit; on the contrary, it has probably attracted more shoppers because of it.</p>
<p>I for one would rather live here than in Windemere.  My wife and I used to live in the Cornerstone apartments (near Gayle Ranch) which were far from everything, and the area was clearly overbuilt.  We can keep digging into hillsides and sprawling our suburbs out over distant horizons, or we can build a little more intelligently within the lines that are already drawn.  It&#39;s a pretty simple decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>I am very sad to see all of the negative comments about the bmr residents. A year ago, my husband and I moved into The Groves. We are a young couple with an infant doing all we can to take care of him. My husband works full time and I go to school full time for nursing. We are in the low income, just as a stepping stone, so I can finish school and we can buy our own home. Not all BMR residents are ghetto or thugs. We never have parties, we pay our rent on time, and we are responsible. Please just open your hearts to those that are thankful Dublin as well as other cities offer BMR apartments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very sad to see all of the negative comments about the bmr residents. A year ago, my husband and I moved into The Groves. We are a young couple with an infant doing all we can to take care of him. My husband works full time and I go to school full time for nursing. We are in the low income, just as a stepping stone, so I can finish school and we can buy our own home. Not all BMR residents are ghetto or thugs. We never have parties, we pay our rent on time, and we are responsible. Please just open your hearts to those that are thankful Dublin as well as other cities offer BMR apartments.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>...and this is why many people are not in favor of a BART station in West Dublin.  Dublin has made tremendous progress in making its high-density neighborhoods crime free, but people up to no good can easily come into and out of town on the trains.  It is too bad people don&#039;t assign blame in the right place and are easily mislead into believing that BMRs are to blame.  How very sad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and this is why many people are not in favor of a BART station in West Dublin.  Dublin has made tremendous progress in making its high-density neighborhoods crime free, but people up to no good can easily come into and out of town on the trains.  It is too bad people don&#8217;t assign blame in the right place and are easily mislead into believing that BMRs are to blame.  How very sad!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crime in Dublin has been level, but higher than before BART came out here. Yet it is still lower than Pleasanton and Livermore. Ask any police office and they will tell you that anyone they have caught in a robbery in Dublin in the last 10 years have come from elsewhere, not from people living in affordable houses. What a stupid arguement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crime in Dublin has been level, but higher than before BART came out here. Yet it is still lower than Pleasanton and Livermore. Ask any police office and they will tell you that anyone they have caught in a robbery in Dublin in the last 10 years have come from elsewhere, not from people living in affordable houses. What a stupid arguement.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bank of America robbery.....I&#039;m not surprised. I knew this was coming due to all of the affordable housing that Mayor Lockhart is promoting. We need to get organized to stop this. Perhaps a public gathering at a public place can be organized via this website to get us both unified and organized. Can we pass a morotorium on future high density developments? This is our last chance to save Dublin. Even if you move to San Ramon or Pleasanton, you will still be affected by all of the ills that Dublin is creating - have you shopped at Stoneridge Mall lately? It&#039;s just not the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bank of America robbery&#8230;..I&#8217;m not surprised. I knew this was coming due to all of the affordable housing that Mayor Lockhart is promoting. We need to get organized to stop this. Perhaps a public gathering at a public place can be organized via this website to get us both unified and organized. Can we pass a morotorium on future high density developments? This is our last chance to save Dublin. Even if you move to San Ramon or Pleasanton, you will still be affected by all of the ills that Dublin is creating &#8211; have you shopped at Stoneridge Mall lately? It&#8217;s just not the same.</p>
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		<title>By: alyysa</title>
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		<dc:creator>alyysa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a grant from the federal government for $12,000 in financial aid, see how you can get one also at http://couponredeemer.com/federalgrants/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a grant from the federal government for $12,000 in financial aid, see how you can get one also at <a href="http://couponredeemer.com/federalgrants/" rel="nofollow">http://couponredeemer.com/federalgrants/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I endorse the following:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sabranti: &quot;Mayor Elect&quot; for his open mind and similiar concerns about High Density Housing and the need for SFR neighborhoods and Balance.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hildenbrand: &quot;Council Re-elect&quot; for her open mind and similiar concerns about High Density Housing and the need for SFR Neighborhood and Balance.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Zukoski: &quot;Council Elect to replace Oravetz&quot; for his open mind and similiar concerns about High Density Housing and the need for SFR Neighborhoods and Balance.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Abulencia: &quot;Council Elect to fill Sabranti&#039;s seat&quot; for his views of a need for smart and responsible land use planning. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;NO to Hart (no need for redux as former school board member along with Lockhart that was part of the land to housing developer decision which equals an Absolute NO 2nd H.S.. If you are a parent in E. Dublin you know what a burning issue this today due to their decision. A Lockhart groupie or minion whatever you want to call it). Made no statement about High Density Housing. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;NO to Boboc (unknown as have not made any tangible statements about the issues facing Dublin)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Do your own research and decide for yourself, be careful as we do not want status quo on our current path of high density housing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I endorse the following:</p>
<p>Sabranti: &#8220;Mayor Elect&#8221; for his open mind and similiar concerns about High Density Housing and the need for SFR neighborhoods and Balance.</p>
<p>Hildenbrand: &#8220;Council Re-elect&#8221; for her open mind and similiar concerns about High Density Housing and the need for SFR Neighborhood and Balance.</p>
<p>Zukoski: &#8220;Council Elect to replace Oravetz&#8221; for his open mind and similiar concerns about High Density Housing and the need for SFR Neighborhoods and Balance.</p>
<p>Abulencia: &#8220;Council Elect to fill Sabranti&#8217;s seat&#8221; for his views of a need for smart and responsible land use planning. </p>
<p>NO to Hart (no need for redux as former school board member along with Lockhart that was part of the land to housing developer decision which equals an Absolute NO 2nd H.S.. If you are a parent in E. Dublin you know what a burning issue this today due to their decision. A Lockhart groupie or minion whatever you want to call it). Made no statement about High Density Housing. </p>
<p>NO to Boboc (unknown as have not made any tangible statements about the issues facing Dublin)</p>
<p>Do your own research and decide for yourself, be careful as we do not want status quo on our current path of high density housing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>To Fellow Dubliners.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Wonderful response, it is reassuring that there are so many who cares about the community and share similiar thoughts on this topic. I know some politicians have chose to ignore, dismiss or even chastise this blog. Too bad for them, their lost as they would be out of touch with the pulse of the City. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Many posts, whether anonymous or not, presented valid opinions and either with correct or incorrect facts. There is no denying though the central theme of opposition to the continued path of building High Density Housing. If you read each and every post, regardless if you agree with the opionion or the facts presented, it all said one thing, enough now with the High Density. Time to start a new and more prosperous, balanced era. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now we have a sounding board to keep a close eye on City Hall, hold our elected officials to their words. Be on them to get us back on track to a better balance of our housing stock (Low vs High). Unlike from 2000-2008, with the exception of Mr. Firenze City Hall operated automnymously (is this a word?) without Citizen involvement. That is how we got to this point in the first place. During these past 8 years unfortunately a lot of Dubliners were new to town and really didn&#039;t get involved. Now we are becoming more seasoned with the town we&#039;ll hopefully see more involvement to help re-shape this town to what we had originally thought it would be when we decided to invest in it. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We handed the Benz keys to City Hall in 2000 and got a Hyundai back in 2008, no offense to Hyundai owners, it is a good car but not quite a Benz. We won&#039;t let that happen again and allow City Hall to go unchecked. Together Dubliners and City Hall can turn this around and get us our Benz back.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am confident that the Candidates we have now for City Hall will finally be advocates of its shareholders (Dublin Residents) instead of advocates of Developer Shareholders, County, State and Feds.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Stay involved!! Don&#039;t let your eye off the ball again as we did the last 8 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Fellow Dubliners.</p>
<p>Wonderful response, it is reassuring that there are so many who cares about the community and share similiar thoughts on this topic. I know some politicians have chose to ignore, dismiss or even chastise this blog. Too bad for them, their lost as they would be out of touch with the pulse of the City. </p>
<p>Many posts, whether anonymous or not, presented valid opinions and either with correct or incorrect facts. There is no denying though the central theme of opposition to the continued path of building High Density Housing. If you read each and every post, regardless if you agree with the opionion or the facts presented, it all said one thing, enough now with the High Density. Time to start a new and more prosperous, balanced era. </p>
<p>Now we have a sounding board to keep a close eye on City Hall, hold our elected officials to their words. Be on them to get us back on track to a better balance of our housing stock (Low vs High). Unlike from 2000-2008, with the exception of Mr. Firenze City Hall operated automnymously (is this a word?) without Citizen involvement. That is how we got to this point in the first place. During these past 8 years unfortunately a lot of Dubliners were new to town and really didn&#8217;t get involved. Now we are becoming more seasoned with the town we&#8217;ll hopefully see more involvement to help re-shape this town to what we had originally thought it would be when we decided to invest in it. </p>
<p>We handed the Benz keys to City Hall in 2000 and got a Hyundai back in 2008, no offense to Hyundai owners, it is a good car but not quite a Benz. We won&#8217;t let that happen again and allow City Hall to go unchecked. Together Dubliners and City Hall can turn this around and get us our Benz back.</p>
<p>I am confident that the Candidates we have now for City Hall will finally be advocates of its shareholders (Dublin Residents) instead of advocates of Developer Shareholders, County, State and Feds.</p>
<p>Stay involved!! Don&#8217;t let your eye off the ball again as we did the last 8 years.</p>
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