Arroyo Vista Redevelopment
The Arroyo Vista redevelopment project will be moving forward based on the Dublin Planning Commission’s 4-1 vote on April 28th to:
- Change the designation on Arroyo Vista from medium to medium/high density;
- Approve a parking space deficit based on special circumstances; and
- Approve incremental traffic congestion along Dougherty Road.
Arroyo Vista is a 24-acre community located along Dougherty Road directly across from Camp Parks. There are currently 150 homes that are owned by the Dublin Housing Authority and rented to low-income households for affordable rates. Unfortunately, the Arroyo Vista buildings have fallen into disrepair over the years. This forced the City of Dublin to either:
(a) Invest millions of dollars to rehabilitate the Arroyo Vista buildings; or
(b) Find a market-based solution to redevelop Arroyo Vista, provide additional affordable housing, and minimize the cost to Dublin’s residents.
Dublin decided to go with option B and sell the land to Citation Homes and Eden Housing to build a new community of market-rate and affordable homes. In this agreement, Citation Homes will build/sell 198 homes and Eden Housing will build/own 180 affordable rate apartments (50 will be built for seniors). There will also be a 3,200 sq. ft. community room available for residents.
As part of this agreement, Eden Housing will be providing 46 fewer parking spaces than what is required by Dublin’s Zoning Ordinance based on special circumstances such as the availability of public transportation and the fact that fewer seniors own cars.
Aside from the relocation of residents during the construction phase of the project, the most controversial aspect of the new Arroyo Vista project is the increased traffic congestion along Dougherty Road that will be created by the additional 228 new homes. Planning Commissioner Morgan King voted against the Arroyo Vista plans based on the principle that Citation Homes and Eden Housing should address these traffic concerns before moving forward with the redevelopment. If the City Council were to approve the Arroyo Vista project, they would need to adopt a Statement of Overriding Considerations to allow for the additional traffic congestion.
Construction of the new Arroyo Vista is expected to start in the fall of 2009.
11:17 PM on May 8th, 2009
Everyone knows this place needs to be torn down asap. It’s an unspoken fact that everyone that still lives there runs side businesses. Since their rent is based on 1/3 of their (reported) income, they stash lots of cash that is never reported… not even reported to the IRS! Many of the people that live there are secretly loaded. It’s kinda funny actually. I’m surprised it took THIS LONG for the everyone to catch on! Sucks for them since their decades of paying little-to-nothing rent is over. No wonder why there was a huge waiting list to be admitted, yet NO ONE EVER moved out because of all the cash they saved lol. Too bad no one cares.
2:03 PM on May 9th, 2009
To the above poster: yeah well obviously.
3:30 PM on May 10th, 2009
If u were one that works the system, you too would live there, except u have too put up with all the ghettoness. Now our tax dollars will be spent relocating these unfornate {lazy} familys.
11:05 AM on March 26th, 2010
Okay JOSEPH!!!!!!!and to everybody else who is putting down arroyo vista!!!!you are so freaking ignorant!!!!!!LAZY FAMILIES are you kidding me wow my parents work real hard and support me and my sisters and for you to say that pisses me off!!!!most people who say ignorant comments like the one you just made are people who havent had to live on a struggle im 19 and ive lived here since i was two!!!!im glad that my parents found arroyo vista otherwise i wouldnt no where we would be right now people say its ghetto wow if you think thats ghetto i wonder what you guys must think of other places.i love arroyo vista and its not ghetto at all and alot of hard working people live here we are not lazy!!!!!
i like to no where you grew up and how!!!you all should be ashamed of yourselfs!!one of you guys said that no one cares!!!MAYBE PEOPLE SHOULD START CARING…theres alot of children with parents that are struggling to give there kids a good life do you ever think about the families that have no where to go after that them tearing arroyo vista down is going to make there lives that muchharder wow!!!!!
10:22 AM on November 16th, 2011
Wow I’m in agreement with u, It’s easy for people to put other people down when they haven’t walked in their shoes. I say to that before you judge imagine yourself in their place of desperation for whatever reason. Everybody can’t handle the everyday hussle of trying to keep a job, pay the rent, provide for kids, alot of women and some men was raising kids alone bec the other parent went awol. So they did the best they could with what they had. For those talking abt their tax dollars, really how much went to Arroyo Vista? You’ll be surprised how little. Nothings guaranteed u could be up today and down tomorrow. Keep living and you will see. I for one as a single parent appreciated what A.V offered, it allowed me to raise my kids in a decent community. Thank you Lord! for the time I was afforded there. Now don’t get me wrong I felt it was time for a change and and uplift. Alot of bad stuff started to happen there. It began to swallow the young people who wasn’t strong or just looking for trouble with drugs, drinking etc: I heard A.V. was built on a burial site. If that’s so, building a new building want be enough. They would want to truly pray over that land before placing anyone else there. I personally saw an image in my house to the point I chased it. Many young people said they saw spirits. I feel I’m a pretty well rounded individual-Im not crazy-SO! Just food for thought. Just remember out of this comment everybody’s not strong-does that mean they shouldn’t have a decent environment to live in.
12:30 PM on May 21st, 2009
I agree with the previous comments. Although affordable housing does some time go to the deserving, such as our Teachers, Firemans, Policeman and Public Workers. More time than not though these handouts go to the CAREER Handout Lifers who will insist on not working too hard to risk losing the handouts from the hard working Citizens.
I believe Affordable housing should be provided by each community for their own Teachers, Firemans, Policeman and Public Workders. No one city should have to provide all this affordable housing to the entire region. Dublin has affordable housing units in the thousands and more to come. I don’t believe we have that many teachers, firemans, policeman and public workers that works for DUBLIN to fill them. The access inventory goes to the unwanted by other communities, the handout lifers.
1:32 AM on May 27th, 2009
Dude arroyo vista is a joke. Everyone is either a housekeeper, child care provider / babysitter, a gardner, or in auto repair. They don't report their income… everyone knows this original poster. It's obvious and everyone in Dublin knows that. All you have to do is declare that you have no income coming in & you get to live there for free for as long as you'd like. Meanwhile, you get to keep all your money and spend it however you please on expensive vacations and material things. There was a huge thing a couple years ago where a lot of the immigrants would send thousands in cash home to their families living in Mexico & elsewhere… no one ever caught on lol. No wonder most people have lived there for at least 20 years +.
9:44 AM on August 4th, 2011
To all the bad comments that people have been saying about Arroyo Vista it is so not true. I’ve lived there for 10 yrs andi I’m a single mom who worked really hard and does not work under the table if it wasn’t for Arroyo Vista i couldn’t find a place out there. Maybe some people work under the talble but don’t put the whole place down i pay tax dollars too and I do understand how people feel but putting the whole place down is a bunch of B- -L S- – T!!!!! Open your eyes people not everyone is well educated and do need help. Maybe some people do take advantage of the system but not all!!!!!!
10:43 AM on November 16th, 2011
I was a childcare provider at A.V. with the exception I reported ALL my income the entire time I was in business. I’ve paid anywhere from $1 for rent to $1300.00 a month for rent. I opened my childcare to try and become self sufficient. Approx 6 mos into it I found out they were closing A.V. I tried to better myself, I encouraged my kids and others kids to do the same because I knew it was a temporary situation. I took college courses whenever I cld. I worked when life permitted it. Sometimes being single brings about challenges that don’t permit u to continue working, such as kids wanting their other half so bad that they began to act out bec they are feeling rejected, or things that a parent can’t see or too young and immature to see bec they are yet growing. Their was no programs in place at A.V. to help or encourage the residents to progress. To give uneducated people a handout without any resources, is like giving away free $$. Some people just don’t have the skills, motivation, or the know-how to better themselves, they probably wasn’t taught. No it’s no one’s fault but it’s reality. The government expects people to survive on $10.hr or less and pay rent-come on-less keep it real. People are struggling. Everybody’s not born with a silver spoon.
2:13 PM on November 17th, 2011
How about young men who impregnate women start sticking around to raise their kids. Why is that my problem? By the way, NO MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS!
2:09 AM on May 27th, 2009
EVERYONE WATCH THIS ARROYO VISTA VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTz_I71pRbk
Reason #9598474784 why it HAD to be torn down!!!!!
11:38 AM on July 24th, 2010
Wow!! are you serious that this video justify tearing down a community?
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the the universe.” – Albert Einstein.
8:49 PM on May 6th, 2011
You got that right sir, tear it DOWN. I live here specially just to get away from “those people”. Had enough of that in San Leandro and Hayward. Gangsta this, gangsta that, I’m from da bay son…..I’m a playa, hustla, wear stupid clothes, look stupid, sound stupid, I drive grandma’s old Buick with giant wheels with rubber-bands for tires that wear out really fast, I wear my cap sideways cause I don’t know how to wear it properly, my pants and shirts are too big and hang below my arss, I’m almost 30 and still dress like that, I think acting ghetto tough and listening to horrible music is the end all of my life, I don’t know the first thing about anything, but I have perfected the art of being a pot smoking moron; I’d say is a pretty accurate discretion of most urban/ghetto trash here in da bay. I could go on of course. Thank god I grew out of that behavior by the age of 19.
Ask any Dublin cop, they’ll tell you Arroyo Vista was the armpit of Dublin.
Now I’m not saying that all who have Section 8 are like what I’ve described above, but it is the type of culture that often comes with Sec 8 living in the Bay Area. Poor parenting doesn’t help either. And that’s real.
BTW, thanks music industry and prop 215 hippies, I blame you.
1:34 PM on August 4th, 2010
The fences have gone up a and no trespassing signs have been installed. Next stop, tear down those public housing eyesores. I have lived nearby Arroyo Vista for many years now and the people would sneak into out pool area, disrespect the legal owners at the pool and break into cars and steal personal belongings. Good riddence-it was a long time coming!
1:04 PM on August 11th, 2010
What was the name before Arroyo Vista? We drove past it as teens but cannot remember the name.
5:36 PM on August 11th, 2010
Hi MLB2010 – I believe it was Komansky Village or something along those lines. Does that ring a bell?
Thx, John Z.
1:07 PM on August 16th, 2010
We called it something else, but cannot remember. I’m thinking now we had a nickname for it though.
4:13 PM on October 12th, 2011
Komadorski Village, built as war-time housing, preceeded Arroyo Vista (built in 1983).
1:05 PM on August 11th, 2010
What was the housing development called prior to Arroyo Vista?
7:02 PM on August 11th, 2010
I believe Komandorski Village was/is the military housing village at Camp Parks.
1:15 PM on August 16th, 2010
ok, I think that IS it. Thanks a ton.
8:10 PM on May 6th, 2011
I love gentrification. Want to know why, because it works! However, the plan above is moronic. Why would hard working people want to buy a new home next to low income housing?……riddle me that?….not me that’s fore sure. If all the new affordable housing was for seniors (which it should be) I’d be all for it. Unfortunately the people that bring the HOOD with them will be back. And it turns out the “displaced” people of AV are on a list to get back in as soon as construction is complete. They have first rights to return if they are still “income eligible”.
Read link from HUD below:
http://www.timsbranti.net/blog/dublin_updates/arroyo-vista-re-development-approved-by-hud
12:41 AM on May 11th, 2011
I can see both sides. I grew up there and it was the only choice my mom had for us. We had rented a small house in Pleasanton (before it was all built up) and after we lost everything in a electrical fire. My mom was able to get us into arroyo vista and have a decent place for us to live – we moved there with Nothing. We lived there my entire life. Yes there were families who abused the system. Yes there were awful things that happened there. I wasn’t really allowed to be outside much and we kept to ourselves. But I can tell you of many more families who lived there for a short time until they could get on their feet and move out. Many single moms were able to provide better for their children. Sometimes people just need a little help.
I was looked down upon in school for living there. I was to “poor” to be friends with anyone who lived outside of there and to “preppy” to the people who lived there. I’m thankful now (looking back) that we didn’t end up in a shelter or out in Oakland in a really ghetto area because who knows how I would have turned out. I would like to think I’m a productive member of society not draining any systems or on any assistance. I finished school I have a very good job with a siginificant salary and I own my own home and help my mother and family. Not everyone that lived there was “bad” or “ghetto”. I am sad to see it torn down it was my home.
4:25 PM on October 12th, 2011
I appreciate your comments and agree. I was involved in the managment of Arroyo Vista. AV was representative of other residential communnities I’ve been associated with — good tenants, bad tenants, and everything in between. It was sad to see the indifference on the part of some residents, particularly those with only one parent in the home. Many children and young adults were left to their own devices, with no meaningful expectations or boundaries. It was also hard to see the sense of entitlement on the part of some adults. Public housing should be a stepping stone to opportunity, not a permanent part of a dependent lifestyle. I saw many residents at AV use their time of residency as a temporary way station while they addressed barriers to economic self-sufficiency — schooling, job training, etc. When stability was achieved, they moved on. Those were the success stories.