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	<title>Comments on: Credit Crunch Delays the Promenade at Dublin Ranch</title>
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		<title>By: San Ramon is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>San Ramon is nice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>San Ramon here I come.  Oh, San Ramon has a new &#039;village&#039; development in progress as well - they too are now saying it will be delayed. You can check on their city website.  Too many downtowns will be trouble. Oh wait, its already showing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>San Ramon here I come.  Oh, San Ramon has a new &#8216;village&#8217; development in progress as well &#8211; they too are now saying it will be delayed. You can check on their city website.  Too many downtowns will be trouble. Oh wait, its already showing.</p>
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		<title>By: San Ramon is nice</title>
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		<dc:creator>San Ramon is nice</dc:creator>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for the comments. Sorry to say that Dublin has a long way to go - hang in there. Times are tough everywhere. I love the tri-valley and grew up in Pleasanton. I too was excited to see the growth in Dublin. Since moving back to the bay area this year from CO (4 yrs), so much has been developed – or should I say over developed. 

Toll brothers pulled out of my city in Lone Tree, CO on a similar development (leaving half paved streets and lighting – just like the 60 minutes episodes on ghost towns), do not have faith in this developer they are not doing as well as they suggest. In the end, the land was acquired by another developer (thank goodness) and townhomes are slowly filling the empty streets. Sadly, the small ‘village’ of Ridgegate is and will most likely remain dirt for some time – just like the promenade of Dublin. 

Please don’t dismiss Lone Tree as a comparable either, as it had more to offer. For all the demographic types, Lone Tree had better schools, better transportation, and was money magazines #8 in the nation on 6-figure cites boasting a 137k median household income (check it out). My house actually sold in 16 days 2 months ago. My point being, It will take some time for all this to pass over and Dublin has a long way to go.  

Don’t expect a promenade anytime soon as the city has no anchor stores to that end of town, no Bart, and plenty of better cities/ land to choose from. Additionally, Dublin has never been very good at being a &#039;good&#039; city. It has always been seen as the &#039;ghetto&#039; of Pleasanton and San Ramon. 

Wait, I would choose Dublin over Lone Tree for one reason – there is no place quite like the Bay Area and the Bay is a beautiful place. I would choose Dublin over Livermore in a second! 

Maybe I just need to wait until Dublin hits rock bottom.

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/moneymag/0907/gallery.bplive_6_figure_towns.moneymag/8.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for the comments. Sorry to say that Dublin has a long way to go &#8211; hang in there. Times are tough everywhere. I love the tri-valley and grew up in Pleasanton. I too was excited to see the growth in Dublin. Since moving back to the bay area this year from CO (4 yrs), so much has been developed – or should I say over developed. </p>
<p>Toll brothers pulled out of my city in Lone Tree, CO on a similar development (leaving half paved streets and lighting – just like the 60 minutes episodes on ghost towns), do not have faith in this developer they are not doing as well as they suggest. In the end, the land was acquired by another developer (thank goodness) and townhomes are slowly filling the empty streets. Sadly, the small ‘village’ of Ridgegate is and will most likely remain dirt for some time – just like the promenade of Dublin. </p>
<p>Please don’t dismiss Lone Tree as a comparable either, as it had more to offer. For all the demographic types, Lone Tree had better schools, better transportation, and was money magazines #8 in the nation on 6-figure cites boasting a 137k median household income (check it out). My house actually sold in 16 days 2 months ago. My point being, It will take some time for all this to pass over and Dublin has a long way to go.  </p>
<p>Don’t expect a promenade anytime soon as the city has no anchor stores to that end of town, no Bart, and plenty of better cities/ land to choose from. Additionally, Dublin has never been very good at being a &#8216;good&#8217; city. It has always been seen as the &#8216;ghetto&#8217; of Pleasanton and San Ramon. </p>
<p>Wait, I would choose Dublin over Lone Tree for one reason – there is no place quite like the Bay Area and the Bay is a beautiful place. I would choose Dublin over Livermore in a second! </p>
<p>Maybe I just need to wait until Dublin hits rock bottom.</p>
<p><a href="http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/moneymag/0907/gallery.bplive_6_figure_towns.moneymag/8.html" rel="nofollow">http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/moneymag/0907/gallery.bplive_6_figure_towns.moneymag/8.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: HOAhelps</title>
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		<dc:creator>HOAhelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tri-valley has two major business parks, Hacienda in Pleasanton and Bishop Ranch in San Ramon. Technology, biomed and energy are major industries. Maybe Dublin can focus on attracting similar companies as well. 

Also financial/investment/insurance, accounting, legal firms can be good fit for Dublin.

I hope that some day all the car dealerships can be replaced by high rise office buildings for investment bankers, lawyers, doctors, engineers, biologists, accountants, fashion designers and other creative class. Dublin has Bart, 580, 680, state of the art infrastrucure, new housing stock and wide pedestrian sidewalks, we should use these to attract create workers to make our land more productive and more valuable.

I hope these knowledge workers will live in Dublin to enjoy the wonderful Tassajara Prep, abundant parks, all the shopping and dinining choices. 

Plus, our walkability score can be very high if we plan well. Walkability is becoming a very important attraction for knowledge workers. Dublin seems to have the best potential to be a walkable community, I really like the wide sidewalk along Dublin Blvd. We need to plan more local serving stores, restaurants, coffee shops ect within walking distance. These kind of neighborhood businesses will be stable and increase the attractiveness of the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tri-valley has two major business parks, Hacienda in Pleasanton and Bishop Ranch in San Ramon. Technology, biomed and energy are major industries. Maybe Dublin can focus on attracting similar companies as well. </p>
<p>Also financial/investment/insurance, accounting, legal firms can be good fit for Dublin.</p>
<p>I hope that some day all the car dealerships can be replaced by high rise office buildings for investment bankers, lawyers, doctors, engineers, biologists, accountants, fashion designers and other creative class. Dublin has Bart, 580, 680, state of the art infrastrucure, new housing stock and wide pedestrian sidewalks, we should use these to attract create workers to make our land more productive and more valuable.</p>
<p>I hope these knowledge workers will live in Dublin to enjoy the wonderful Tassajara Prep, abundant parks, all the shopping and dinining choices. </p>
<p>Plus, our walkability score can be very high if we plan well. Walkability is becoming a very important attraction for knowledge workers. Dublin seems to have the best potential to be a walkable community, I really like the wide sidewalk along Dublin Blvd. We need to plan more local serving stores, restaurants, coffee shops ect within walking distance. These kind of neighborhood businesses will be stable and increase the attractiveness of the city.</p>
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		<title>By: HOAhelps</title>
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		<dc:creator>HOAhelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More good news for Dublin. A good software company

http://ir.taleo.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=444214</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More good news for Dublin. A good software company</p>
<p><a href="http://ir.taleo.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=444214" rel="nofollow">http://ir.taleo.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=444214</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>It seems that the promenade property is up for sale - I see the &quot;Land for sale Mixed Retail or Commercial&quot; sign up at the Promenade area - Sigh! I really hope whoever buys this does not rule out the idea of building the Promenade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the promenade property is up for sale &#8211; I see the &#8220;Land for sale Mixed Retail or Commercial&#8221; sign up at the Promenade area &#8211; Sigh! I really hope whoever buys this does not rule out the idea of building the Promenade.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well. The resistance in Oak Grove may be an opportunity for Dublin. Dublin should expedite some of the Charter&#039;s proposal in the city. We should all know why Charter is trying to get planning approval for their projects is to sell them to other developers. Not bad as long as they will focus one or two flagship projects in Dublin. We have been hearing lots of potential developments, but none of them come close to reality. Let&#039;s work with Charter to focus on one or two main centers to bring life to Dublin. At the same time, we should not compromise on our vision in Dublin. Never downgrade the quality of the projects. I absolutely welcome the Pleasantonians have been resistant to growth in Pleasanton, so we can take advantages of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well. The resistance in Oak Grove may be an opportunity for Dublin. Dublin should expedite some of the Charter&#8217;s proposal in the city. We should all know why Charter is trying to get planning approval for their projects is to sell them to other developers. Not bad as long as they will focus one or two flagship projects in Dublin. We have been hearing lots of potential developments, but none of them come close to reality. Let&#8217;s work with Charter to focus on one or two main centers to bring life to Dublin. At the same time, we should not compromise on our vision in Dublin. Never downgrade the quality of the projects. I absolutely welcome the Pleasantonians have been resistant to growth in Pleasanton, so we can take advantages of it.</p>
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		<title>By: John M. Zukoski</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M. Zukoski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anonymous - I would love to see Charter take advantage of the soft construction market and start building out the Promenade, Fallon Gateway, and Phase III of Grafton Station. However, the credit markets are tight these days with many banks not willing to lend money unless a developer has signed agreements for at least 90% of the planned project. As far as the Oak Grove project, the big expenses there have been for legal services, environmental studies, land use consulting, etc. It&#039;s unfortunate that the Oak Grove project is facing resistance from some of the residents. It looks like a wonderful community that would carry significant benefits for homeowners and open space/park enthusiasts. 

While the returns can be phenomenal, developers are required to invest a significant amount of upfront capital for projects. In a market like this, cash is king.

Cheers, John Z.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anonymous &#8211; I would love to see Charter take advantage of the soft construction market and start building out the Promenade, Fallon Gateway, and Phase III of Grafton Station. However, the credit markets are tight these days with many banks not willing to lend money unless a developer has signed agreements for at least 90% of the planned project. As far as the Oak Grove project, the big expenses there have been for legal services, environmental studies, land use consulting, etc. It&#8217;s unfortunate that the Oak Grove project is facing resistance from some of the residents. It looks like a wonderful community that would carry significant benefits for homeowners and open space/park enthusiasts. </p>
<p>While the returns can be phenomenal, developers are required to invest a significant amount of upfront capital for projects. In a market like this, cash is king.</p>
<p>Cheers, John Z.</p>
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		<title>By: John M. Zukoski</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M. Zukoski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anonymous - the adjacent Waterford apartment complex was sold to another investment firm about a year or so ago.

Thx, John Z.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anonymous &#8211; the adjacent Waterford apartment complex was sold to another investment firm about a year or so ago.</p>
<p>Thx, John Z.</p>
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