Comments on: Dublin To Have Full Service Courthouse by 2014 http://www.arounddublinblog.com/2010/02/dublin-ca-full-service-courthouse-by-2014/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=dublin-ca-full-service-courthouse-by-2014 Dublin, CA (California) News & Online Community Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:30:42 +0000 hourly 1 By: Anonymoushttp://www.arounddublinblog.com/2010/02/dublin-ca-full-service-courthouse-by-2014/#comment-13212 Anonymous Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.arounddublinblog.com/?p=1962#comment-13212 I agree with the previous poster that suggested the City of Dublin purchase this plot of land from Alameda County, and repurpose it for something more beneficial to the community. Also, I think in the long run, the jail should not be at this location. The area should be reclaimed and reintegrated into a Tassajara Creek Regional Park within the East Bay Regional Parks District. With the recently approved ballot measure for the parks, I don't see why they cannot purchase this area. I would highly doubt that most of the people booked at the jail are Tri-Valley residents. In fact, I think they would save a lot more money if they just built a new jail in Oakland, Hayward, or San Leandro. Less distance to travel when transporting people to the jail. The communities of Dublin have nice, well-behaved, professional people. We don't need to play host to the thugs of Alameda County. I agree with the previous poster that suggested the City of Dublin purchase this plot of land from Alameda County, and repurpose it for something more beneficial to the community. Also, I think in the long run, the jail should not be at this location. The area should be reclaimed and reintegrated into a Tassajara Creek Regional Park within the East Bay Regional Parks District. With the recently approved ballot measure for the parks, I don’t see why they cannot purchase this area. I would highly doubt that most of the people booked at the jail are Tri-Valley residents. In fact, I think they would save a lot more money if they just built a new jail in Oakland, Hayward, or San Leandro. Less distance to travel when transporting people to the jail. The communities of Dublin have nice, well-behaved, professional people. We don’t need to play host to the thugs of Alameda County.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.arounddublinblog.com/2010/02/dublin-ca-full-service-courthouse-by-2014/#comment-4862 Anonymous Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.arounddublinblog.com/?p=1962#comment-4862 The County has always owned the land where the courthouse is being built. It was never owned by the city. Also, the county did not decide to build the courthouse after the Juvenile Detention Facility was defeated. Originally they were going to build both in Dublin. The reason behind building the courthouse in Dublin is that the county currently rents courthouse space in Pleasanton and leasing these buildings doesn't make good economic sense. Also, by using the county land near the jail (which by the way is the 5th largest in the nation), resources and services could be located together. I'm not talking bail bondsman, but the District Attorneys offices, facilities for the judges, etc. As for changing the zoning for Emerald Point to something other than Office Campus is a ridiculous notion. Emerald Point is owned by Cisco and they do not want to lease to anyone nor sell. They are perfectly happy with their vacant building. Also the land closest to the FCI and Camp Parks is owned by DSRSD and may some day become their corporation yard.None of this information about the courthouse should surprise anyone. It has always been disclosed to the residents and home buyers and was not a part of the fight to stop the Super Jail. The Super Jail as mentioned by James in a previous posting had not been disclosed and had other issues associated with it. It was never about picking on poison over another. It was about about a non-disclosure issue and a social justice issue with the facility.Kevin Hart has much legal advice from the City Attorney on what he can and cannot vote on. Rest assured their attorney would not let him participate in a vote if there was a conflict of interest. The County has always owned the land where the courthouse is being built. It was never owned by the city. Also, the county did not decide to build the courthouse after the Juvenile Detention Facility was defeated. Originally they were going to build both in Dublin. The reason behind building the courthouse in Dublin is that the county currently rents courthouse space in Pleasanton and leasing these buildings doesn’t make good economic sense. Also, by using the county land near the jail (which by the way is the 5th largest in the nation), resources and services could be located together. I’m not talking bail bondsman, but the District Attorneys offices, facilities for the judges, etc. As for changing the zoning for Emerald Point to something other than Office Campus is a ridiculous notion. Emerald Point is owned by Cisco and they do not want to lease to anyone nor sell. They are perfectly happy with their vacant building. Also the land closest to the FCI and Camp Parks is owned by DSRSD and may some day become their corporation yard.

None of this information about the courthouse should surprise anyone. It has always been disclosed to the residents and home buyers and was not a part of the fight to stop the Super Jail. The Super Jail as mentioned by James in a previous posting had not been disclosed and had other issues associated with it. It was never about picking on poison over another. It was about about a non-disclosure issue and a social justice issue with the facility.

Kevin Hart has much legal advice from the City Attorney on what he can and cannot vote on. Rest assured their attorney would not let him participate in a vote if there was a conflict of interest.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.arounddublinblog.com/2010/02/dublin-ca-full-service-courthouse-by-2014/#comment-4860 Anonymous Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.arounddublinblog.com/?p=1962#comment-4860 What's in it for Dublin to host high crime courthouses? Does Dublin have any say in this matter?Dublin already has the burden of hosting a county jail. Why can't Pleasanton share the burden by expanding their existing courthouse facilities to support higher profile crime cases?We should create an action plan to turn the tide:1) Can we vote off the County Sheriff's employee from the city council?2) Can the city propose a measure to raise money and buy the land back from Alameda County to re-purpose it for something more attractive?3) We should organize to build a consistent and desirable identity for Dublin and stop the ridiculous hodgepodge planning of extremes: on one hand, we have beautiful communities and great things to come and on the other we have horrible things such as county jail, high crime courthouses, pawn shops, bounty hunters and bail bond businesses?Now I'm beginning to regret moving to Dublin... :( What’s in it for Dublin to host high crime courthouses? Does Dublin have any say in this matter?

Dublin already has the burden of hosting a county jail. Why can’t Pleasanton share the burden by expanding their existing courthouse facilities to support higher profile crime cases?

We should create an action plan to turn the tide:

1) Can we vote off the County Sheriff’s employee from the city council?

2) Can the city propose a measure to raise money and buy the land back from Alameda County to re-purpose it for something more attractive?

3) We should organize to build a consistent and desirable identity for Dublin and stop the ridiculous hodgepodge planning of extremes: on one hand, we have beautiful communities and great things to come and on the other we have horrible things such as county jail, high crime courthouses, pawn shops, bounty hunters and bail bond businesses?

Now I’m beginning to regret moving to Dublin… :(

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.arounddublinblog.com/2010/02/dublin-ca-full-service-courthouse-by-2014/#comment-4841 Anonymous Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.arounddublinblog.com/?p=1962#comment-4841 Thanks for the valuable update on the issue. If the full service court house is ever allowed to proceed building. There will be a series of related building type to be built in the so called 'Government Center.' We should definitely take action to stop that. I am sure the County will try whatever way to window dress and soften impact of this project. Thanks for the valuable update on the issue. If the full service court house is ever allowed to proceed building. There will be a series of related building type to be built in the so called ‘Government Center.’ We should definitely take action to stop that. I am sure the County will try whatever way to window dress and soften impact of this project.

]]> By: Jameshttp://www.arounddublinblog.com/2010/02/dublin-ca-full-service-courthouse-by-2014/#comment-4840 James Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.arounddublinblog.com/?p=1962#comment-4840 One item is definitely off that list - the juvenile detention center (aka "Super Jail") issue is long dead - killed years ago by local residents and interest groups rallying together as I noted at the top. Regarding the courthouse there has never been an organized effort (that I'm aware of) to impact that decision which pre-dated our family moving to Dublin in 2000.For those that want to impact the courthouse - and that horse has likely long since left the barn - I'm 99% certain that fight would be with Alameda County since they own the land. I think the City has had some influence on "how" the courthouse would be built but not "if".From my earlier experience fighting the juvenile detention center you have to be in for the long haul to stop initiatives like this (meaning it's a multi-year personal commitment to organize and rally residents), and be prepared to spend non-trivial amounts of money in the process. One item is definitely off that list – the juvenile detention center (aka “Super Jail”) issue is long dead – killed years ago by local residents and interest groups rallying together as I noted at the top. Regarding the courthouse there has never been an organized effort (that I’m aware of) to impact that decision which pre-dated our family moving to Dublin in 2000.

For those that want to impact the courthouse – and that horse has likely long since left the barn – I’m 99% certain that fight would be with Alameda County since they own the land. I think the City has had some influence on “how” the courthouse would be built but not “if”.

From my earlier experience fighting the juvenile detention center you have to be in for the long haul to stop initiatives like this (meaning it’s a multi-year personal commitment to organize and rally residents), and be prepared to spend non-trivial amounts of money in the process.

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