AP Exam Pass Rates at Tri-Valley High Schools

by John M. Zukoski  |  Topics:  Opinions · Schools

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High schools are increasingly being evaluated by the success of their Advanced Placement (AP) programs. The AP program is a series of college-level courses offered to high school students. If students score high enough on the AP Exam for the course, they can receive college credit from most universities. AP Exams are graded on a scale of 1 to 5. While a score of 3 is considered passing, most top-tier colleges like Stanford University will only award college credit if students score a 4 or higher on the AP Exams.

Many of the nationally-recognized sources for high school rankings such as US News & World Report and Newsweek incorporate the number of AP Exams taken into their calculations as they select the top schools throughout the United States. School districts looking to improve their rankings in these publications have started to push under-qualified students into AP courses in order to increase the number of AP Exams taken. This practice is evident by the low scores achieved on AP Exams by students at these schools. The risk school districts face by gaming the system this way is that teachers are forced to slow down the pace of classroom instruction in order to accommodate the students who are not ready for AP coursework. The slower pacing negatively impacts the students who are ready for AP coursework, because it causes them to be under-prepared for the AP Exams. As a result, many of them score lower than a 4 and find themselves without the college credit that they had hoped to receive.

Based on the latest data available for Tri-Valley high schools from the California Department of Education, the AP programs in Pleasanton, Danville, and San Ramon have significantly outperformed those in Dublin and Livermore. This observation is consistent with the trend in API scores for Tri-Valley high schools. AP Exam results for 2005-2008 reveal that Dublin High School is scoring at about the same level as Livermore High School and Granada High School.

One measure of an AP program’s strength is to compare the percentage of 4s and 5s relative to the number of exams taken. Using this measure, the top two schools from 2005-2008 were Monte Vista High School in Danville (67%) and Amador Valley High School in Pleasanton (66%). The bottom three schools were Livermore High School (25%), Dublin High School (35%), and Granada High School (49%).

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Another way to assess the strength of a high school’s AP program is to look at the number of AP Exams with scores of 4 or 5 for every 100 students in the 11th and 12th grade. Using this measure, the top two high schools in the Tri-Valley from 2005-2008 were Amador Valley High School (67) and Foothill High School (58) in Pleasanton. The bottom three schools were Livermore High School (11), Granada High School (15) in Livermore, and Dublin High School (16).

From 2005 to 2008, Dublin High School, Livermore High School, and Granada High School all significantly increased their student enrollment in AP classes. As seen in the AP Exam outcomes for these schools, the slower pacing of instruction does not make the challenging AP courses any easier for students not prepared to handle the work. Even worse, it has a devastating effect on the typically higher-achieving students competing for spots at prestigious colleges and universities throughout the nation.

Please visit http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/ap/about.html for more information about the AP program.

In response to concerns about the dilution of academic rigor in the national AP program, the Tri-Valley Learning Corporation is partnering with top-tier regional higher education institutions to provide students at Livermore Valley Charter Preparatory and Tassajara Preparatory High School with the opportunity to take qualified university-caliber courses and receive full college credit from many of the premier colleges and universities throughout the region. The Around Dublin Blog will be featuring more about this innovative and revolutionary program in the coming weeks.

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Published on March 16, 2010

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57 Comments on “AP Exam Pass Rates at Tri-Valley High Schools”

  1. Anonymous
    6:04 PM on March 16th, 2010

    Has anyone ever considered that our city “can’t support” multiple high schools because the existing one is sub par? On my 8 house street, two families with kids approaching high school age moved specifically for that reason. The rest are childless or have very small children. I with a better high school option, Dublin will retain those families and our high school enrollment numbers will increase.

    • George Wu
      8:55 PM on March 16th, 2010

      Will better public schools be a big plus for home prices? You bet. I just saw this article today:

      http://www.greatschools.org/find-a-school/moving/real-value-of-public-school.gs?content=2295&s_cid=facebook

      • Terry
        7:36 PM on March 25th, 2010

        I want to thank you and this blog keeping all those people out of the East Side. That will really help Home Prices. Keep the Muslims out, build a school that won’t allow Blacks and Mexican that typically perform low on Standardized Tests, and create a community where us Asians and Whites can live in harmony with our minimal number of stop lights. Also we need to get on board with changing the boundaries for Green, Kolb and Fallon so we can get all those dark kids in the apartments in to one school. After that we can just send them to DHS instead of our TP. Thanks to you and John for leading the charge.

    • Anonymous
      9:30 AM on March 17th, 2010

      How can parents move their kids once they reach high school age. The friendships that the kid has built from K-8 I feel is more important than the academics.

    • Anonymous
      3:11 AM on March 18th, 2010

      We just had neighbors move from Hayward into the house next door because their kids are reaching high school age and Dublin High has much better scores and personal safety standards than any of the East Bay schools west of the Dublin Grade. The status quo at Dublin High is above the state and national average in many tested areas. City-data.com school rating (using weighted 2008 test average as compared to other schools in California) from 0 (worst) to 100 (best) lists Dublin High as 88 which ties it with 12 other schools for a statewide rank of 29 out of 853. In fact the attendance numbers are growing not shrinking. More people are moving in than leaving as they realize that Dublin offers quality public education combined with affordable housing options. People need to spend time and resources making an already decent school better, not trying to steal resources away on a pipe dream of a charter school that the majority of citizens do not want.

  2. Anonymous
    10:30 AM on March 17th, 2010

    Friendships don’t pay the bills and don’t get you jobs. Well, friendships can sometimes get you a job if you know the right person, but kids going to Tassajara Prep will have much better jobs as adults than Dublin HS kids will.

    I can’t believe there are parents out there who would even care about this. In my generation (80s/90s), parents did what they wanted and the kids sucked it up and went along whether they liked it or not. Today’s generation of parents coddle their kids to an alarming degree, raising a generation of spoiled brats who can’t handle adversity.

    Friendships mean nothing compared to academics. There’s not one person I talk to from grade school or high school. My wife can say the same thing.

    • Anonymous
      2:53 PM on March 17th, 2010

      You honestly can say that kids going to a non-existent school will have better jobs that Dublin High graduates?

      With this evident ability to see years into the future, can you tell us the following: 1)Who will win the World Series in 2020? 2)Will we ever see a female President? 3)When can we see a practical hovercraft on the market?

  3. Anonymous
    1:41 PM on March 17th, 2010

    The beauty of statistics is that we can twist the numbers, add some verbiage and make that data say pretty much whatever we wish in order to support our agenda. “Around Dublin” is so utterly self-serving it is transparent to most. The existing high school is an excellent institution, and along with the continuation school and independent program, meets the needs of our diverse community. For those that want to opt out there are private schools and interdistrict transfers.
    To the person stating that better employment opportunities will be available to those that attend Tassajara Prep, your ignorance is amusing. You’ve absolutely nothing to base your statement on. I do agree many are raising the children of this generation with a distorted view. For example, teaching them it is acceptable to look for loopholes in the charter program in order to syphon public funds from programs meant to support the needs of an entire community under the belief that you are entitled to them. When I was growing up in the 80′s and 90′s parents pony-ed up the cash and sent us to private school if they wanted something more. Funny enough I spent a good deal of time in a private preparatory school (Drew); but the schooling I’ve really been able to draw on in my adult life is what I was taught at the continuation school I graduated from.
    George Wu – we have a great school and it will be good for your property value. It continues to improve. Get over yourself – I know its tough, but you can do it.
    Find another town to rob please. You are not welcome in Dublin. I look at the AP stats for DHS and see a different picture altogether and I think it has been made obvious that the majority or the community would agree with me.

    • George Wu
      3:51 PM on March 17th, 2010

      You are just a coward who cannot disclose your name to attack me personally. You are the one who needs to get over the facts, not distort them.

    • George Wu
      4:00 PM on March 17th, 2010

      Who gives you the right to welcome or not welcome people to Dublin? People will make their own decisions at their own freedom. Nobody really cares about your BS.

    • HOAhelps
      8:25 AM on March 18th, 2010

      Is the city of Dublin someone’s private property? If so, you can certainly forbid others to come to your private city property and forbid others to have their own opinion, forbid others to express their thoughts.

      I did not know Dublin is some Anonymous Prince’s royal property, nor is Dublin some Anonymous dictator’s land.

      Anonymous
      1:41 PM on March 17th, 2010

      “Find another town to rob please. You are not welcome in Dublin.”

  4. Michelle McDonald
    3:08 PM on March 17th, 2010

    So it is not the intent of the Tri Valley Learning Corp to run down the educational opportunities offered at Dublin High? Right…

    • HOAhelps
      12:39 AM on March 18th, 2010

      It helps everyone if we focus on tasks rather than personal attacks.

      Let’s use our brain and energy to figure out how to build a wonderful Tassajara Prep and to implement everything that helps.

      I think the best effort is to make all the Dublin resident aware of this wonderful plan of a new high school. Maybe someone can contact Dublin Ranch HOA and other HOAs to make the message across. This should be an effective medium to rally support from parents. Parents are the only decision makers about this, not some people with some unknown self-interest.

    • HOAhelps
      12:50 AM on March 18th, 2010

      HOA is an effective organization to get all homeowners involved in new high school planning. Once the messages get to everyone, we may see some unexpected good suggestions, contributions and strong support.

      Also we should make our plan known to current and future home builders. They will support the new high school since it benefits their business.

      Someone can also pass the news to realtor association so they can bring more parents to Dublin, since DHS seems worrying about student population. When people know we have great high schools, I believe both Tassajara Prep and Dublin High will have a long waiting list, and both schools may need to divert students to other districts, or to build a third high school!

      It is a mistake to think of Tassajara Prep as a competitor.

  5. Robert
    4:57 PM on March 17th, 2010

    Michelle,

    Why don’t you focus on the job you signed up for – helping a sub-par school become one that is even remotely close to our neighbor schools in quality. We need those efforts. Dublin High is not good enough for our students. People do leave Dublin because they agree with me on this point. I will leave also unless there is a drastic improvement or Tassajara Prep is available as an option. The last thing we need in our community is the people who are supposed to be helping improve Dublin High School wasting their time fighting the charter school. That is appalling. How do we justify an efort to maintain staus quo when status quo is sub par?

    Robert

    • Anonymous
      10:23 AM on March 19th, 2010

      you are in Dublin because you cannot afford San Ramon or Pleasanton. where are you going to go?

      • Anonymous
        11:19 AM on March 19th, 2010

        This is not necessarily true. Many families can afford either to live in Dublin or in Pleasanton and San Ramon. That is why a lot of families moved. That is also why a lot of families picked Pleasanton or San Ramon when they decided to buy a house in Tri-Valley.

        • Anonymous
          9:37 PM on April 27th, 2010

          Intense parents who are fearful their genes and support are not enough to allow their kids to achieve move to San Ramon, Pleasanton, etc. I’d rather sent my kids to Dublin High any day and save my money for the private colleges of their choice.

          • Anonymous
            10:18 PM on April 27th, 2010

            Your gene is not smart enough because you cannot figure out the money you saved now could not make up the faster appreciation of home values in Pleasanton or San Ramon.

            Besides, you need to show you have no savings when your kid is admitted by Ivy League schools so he/she can get financial aid from the school.

          • Anonymous
            8:14 PM on May 1st, 2010

            To Anonymous at 10:18 PM on April 27th, 2010:

            My husband and I have 4 ivy league degrees (2 professional ones) and zero debt. So, we have some ideas about how to get to the top colleges etc.

            If you study real estate, you will notice that the usual pattern is that properties around the same area rise and fall at the same percentage. The difference between areas with slightly better school scores and those with less are that the “better” areas fall later and for shorter period of time. But if you plan to hold a property for a long time, there is little difference in the % of price appreciation.

            In short, if you’d like to sink more money into a “better” area and follow the masses who say “location, location, location” and “you can’t lose with real estate”, it’s your choice. If you’d like to overload yourself with debt and force your kid to beg for “financial aid”, that’s your choice. Most of the “aid” will be loan that must be returned anyways and can NEVER be discharged in bankruptcy. So, if you’d like to saddle your kid with over $250k in student loans/”aids”, go ahead. We choose a different, easier path for our kids.

          • Anonymous
            10:13 PM on May 1st, 2010

            First, whose real estate theory is that? Or is it just your imagination? Do you have any data or link to support it?

            Second, I know for a fact that real estate prices in good districts around Bay Area (Cupertino, West San Jose, Palo Alto, Mission San Jose, etc) have been holding very well (5-10% or so drop), compared to 30-50% drop in Dublin. Besides, the home price in those districts is already much higher than Dublin’s. Home prices in Pleasanton and San Ramon have also been holding better than Dublin’s.

            Third, Ivy Leagues are offering real financial aid (not loans) to enrolled students. Check out this link for an example: http://www.princeton.edu/admission/financialaid/how_it_works/who_qualifies/. The point is that Ivy Leagues are making them affordable as much as possible nowadays and they are willing to make it work for anyone who is able to be admitted at the first place.

    • Tom
      7:21 PM on March 25th, 2010

      To Robert —Leave
      To Everyone Else —On both sides –you guys are hilarious– or nuts I can’t tell which.

      Leave the kids alone and let them succeed. Get back to work. You all have way to much free time on your hands. No wonder our economy is suffering.

  6. Anonymous
    11:12 AM on March 18th, 2010

    Is George Wu your real name? If not then ‘Anonymous’ is just as good as ‘George Wu’.

  7. Anonymous
    12:44 AM on March 19th, 2010

    2009 pass rate should be significantly better for Dublin HS. In 2011, Dublin HS will break 900 API mark. TP backers will realize they don’t need a second HS.

  8. Jing Firmeza
    3:54 PM on March 20th, 2010

    I believe in any educational institution’s ability to produce good and well educated students. I was educated in both private and public schools in the Philippines. I can apply our issues here in the US and back then in my country. The only difference I see is that on the same grade level, students are grouped through different class sections in the Philippines. All the high performing students with the same IQ or intelligence level are in the same class. We use to have 16 class sections in high school. You can just imagine the IQ level of the bottom section. The advantage I see in this grouping system is that students seem to want to improve and reach for the next section up for the next semester. The best students seems to be not held up by the low performing students. Teachers were able to concentrate on the IQ level of the class and adopt the methodology to that class. What is needed in the “No one left Behind” concept. In my freshman year, I was in the 4th section and end up in the 1st section in my junior year. I find it a challenge to improve my class grades to join the elite of the top class. Being in the top section did not stop for me to strive to be the best among the elite students. The competition was tough that you have to have A’s in all your quizzes and exams. In the top section we were able to concentrate with advance college preparatory curriculum not present with the lower class sections. Resulting in my excellent college performance. The lower class section who had no aspirations to get to college were prepared to go to vocational skilled training. Our teachers used to publish exam results and it was gratifying and rewarding to see your name in the top of the list. Definitely, it was embarrassing to be in the bottom part of the list. In the top section, the lowest grade was mostly in the B grade level. I was more than prepared for college that I breezed by.

    I totally believe in the reward and recognition of outstanding individual performance. I see this lacking in our school systems here in the US. I am ecstatic that a lot of Dubliners are passionate about our school performance. I feel that our city school system is in the right track and it is not broken. I can predict that our ratings will be on the top level within 3 to 5 years. The charter school will produce good and well prepared students; Dublin HS as well. It is not fair for East Dubliners to commute to West Dublin to attend high school. East Dublin should have a High School nearyby. It could be a Dublin HS extension. But I don’t believe status quo of our Dublin Schools will not improve our school ratings. I have no stake in this issue as I don’t have kids that is below college level. I will continue to support measures to fund our schools in our city. Teachers should be highly paid and infrastructures should be improved. This debate is good and very productive. I just hope that everybody reconcile as to whatever outcome. Unite in making our schools the best in the whole Tri Valley.

  9. ProCharters
    9:25 PM on March 25th, 2010

    Charter schools, even academically focused ones, have an advantage beyond grades. Many kids get lost in a large environment like DHS. They are bullied, and can feel like they’re just a number to their teachers. These are often the smart kids, often girls, who will thrive at a small school. The lack of extracurricular activities will be far outweighed by the smaller environment. Yes, teachers at big schools will tell you that they get to know all their students. Administrators will assure you they have zero-tolerance for bullying. But it’s not true. They get to know the kids who get noticed. The rest slip away. I struggled in my large suburban school. Quiet, tested amazingly well, but struggled. I was able to transfer to one of the first charter schools in my city. My *class* was larger, but the 40 of us were together all day, with the same teachers for 3 years, a principal who ate lunch with a group of 5 kids every Friday. We never had fights or bullies or social pressure to not excel because every student was there by choice. At 17, I went straight from there to Cal and graduated with honors. I don’t for a minute miss not having prom or football or all that stuff.

    • Anonymous
      9:33 PM on March 25th, 2010

      I don’t recall Tassajara Prep ever saying that there’d be no prom for the kids or that there would be no extracurricular activities for the kids. You must have been confused by the lies and misrepresentations from King James and Queen Mary.

  10. Anonymous
    9:14 PM on March 31st, 2010

    Have you noticed that these test scores are from the years 2005 – 2008? In the past two years, Dublin High has made a significant improvement, including the increase in their API score. This means that DHS is getting better and better each year. Maybe you should add the recent information to your emails before you send them out.

  11. Anonymous
    9:49 PM on March 31st, 2010

    Has anyone considered the opinions of the students? I am a DHS student from East Dublin, and also ranked number 8 in my class. It is interesting because your statistics range from the years 2005 to 2008. However, in the past two years, DHS has been making remarkable improvements, including the significant increase in our API score. Additionally, the curriculum and graduation requirements are getting tougher. As a student, I wish that all the time and effort spent on creating TPrep was actually spent on improving DHS. Please just consider the voices of the East Dublin students, who I can guarantee would pick DHS over any other school around.

    Let’s not fight, but instead unite.

  12. Anonymous
    3:37 PM on April 1st, 2010

    There is no point comparing scores. Yes, Dublin may have only 30% high performing students than Pleasantons 70% high performers. It is more geared to students background etc. If a student is good, takes the right prep classes etc, they can do good anywhere. Posting such articles undermines Dublin as a community to live in. Dublin HS students are going to all UC colleges, columbia, MIT and other top notch ones. If you are good, you can shine and go any college you want. Yes, if you choose to stick with the other non-motivated kids, good luck anywhere.

    • Anonymous
      5:43 PM on April 1st, 2010

      You can also say that as Dubliners, some are pushing for changes to make it a better place to live and to educate our children. There is no derisiveness meant for anybody. Just wondering about your stated disparity between two high schools located within 5 miles of each other. Demographics alone don’t explain it.

      • Anonymous
        11:19 AM on April 2nd, 2010

        I compared the API scores for Asians between Amador Valley High and Dublin High. API for Asians in AVHS is 940, whereas API for Asians in DHS is only 868. A big 70+ gap! Interesting enough, there is no much difference for Whites and Hispanics between these two schools. Why is that?

        • Anonymous
          1:41 PM on April 2nd, 2010

          If that’s true, then obviously the asian kids in DHS aren’t as motivated as their counterpart in Almador Valley. That’d EASILY explain everything, wouldn’t it? And please don’t post such numbers (as the state of California has done publicly with its intended purpose) because it will divide the community.
          Seriously, yours is a tough question. It’d take somebody with serious smarts and lots of time to come up with an irrefutable answer.

        • Anonymous
          1:53 PM on April 2nd, 2010

          Don’t put the blame entirely on the students. Perhaps the teachers are not as good? Maybe it’s a direct result of DUSD trying to boost ranking by pushing kids, whether they are ready or not, into AP classes?

  13. Anonymous
    5:19 PM on April 1st, 2010

    I found it interesting whenever someone pointed out what DHS did not do well, he or she will be labeled as a divider who is undermining the community. I do not understand why these people are so close-minded that they just won’t be able to accept the facts. At least you should be aware what you did not do well so that you can improve and do better in the future. I hope these people are not the ones who are running our school board; otherwise, we will be doomed.

  14. Dublin mom
    9:48 PM on April 27th, 2010

    I went to a public high school similar to Dublin High and graduated with honors from an ivy league university, beating out many students who graduated from the top private high schools. All my high school friends went on to have extremely successful careers as doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. No one talked about the average high school scores and rankings. Colleges care more about individual students’ GPAs and SAT scores.

    Also, not being in the very top high school, all the top 2% performers at my school were able to participate actively in extracurricular activities including sports (instead of just concentrating on academics) which made school more interesting and the students more well-rounded.

  15. Anonymous
    10:06 PM on April 27th, 2010

    “Colleges care more about individual students’ GPAs and SAT scores.”

    Cannot agree more. But that is exactly the problem with DHS. Not many students in DHS can achieve high GPAs and SAT scores.

    • Anonymous
      8:22 PM on May 1st, 2010

      Are you saying there are more A’s given out in Pleasanton and San Ramon than Dublin schools? That’s ridiculous. GPAs are supposed to be more of a comparison of the student body, so it should be easier getting an A in Dublin if the average student is less motivated or academically inclined.

      • Anonymous
        10:25 PM on May 1st, 2010

        You have no idea, do you? In order to get into top colleges, you need AP classes and for those classes you can get 5′s instead of 4′s. That is how you can prop up your overall GPA score (I mean, >4 GPA). You know how AP classes are graded, right? If you do not know, you need to get educated before you open your mouth.

  16. Anonymous
    2:14 PM on May 6th, 2010

    FYI…Stanford does not not give ANY A.P. credit. Might want to check that before you write.

  17. Sarah
    2:26 PM on May 6th, 2010

    Hi! I’m a student at Dublin High who just took her 7th AP test. First of all, I’m here to second the comment above me. Stanford doesn’t accept any A.P. credit. They do take English scores and use it as a placement exam, but that’s it. Actually, most Ivy Leagues do not. So the person that wrote this article needs to verify facts. Maybe he would know if he actually had a kid who is going through DHS right now.

    I am a student at DHS and it is great and I have been fully prepared for every exam I have taken. When I spent a semester abroad, I can confidently say I was the most prepared student in AP Chemistry than the 7 other kids in my class. Passing AP exams for a DHS student definitely comes down to the student, as it should. The teachers are there whenever you need them and cover the material, but it’s up to that student to get help. The harder you work, the better your score. The reason that our scores might not be as high as other schools is because at DHS, if you are enrolled in an AP class, you have to take the test or your grade drops 10%. That way students make a serious commitment when signing up for the class. At other schools only the people that think they will pass will take the test and I’ve heard of people who are not doing too well in the subject being pressured not to take the test. Maybe if the author of this article actually knew anything about DHS, he wouldn’t have been so mistaken. This is seriously an insult to teachers who work very hard and students like me who work very hard and get into Ivy League schools only to be called “inadequate.”

    • Anonymous
      3:29 PM on May 6th, 2010

      What about GPAs? Getting 5′s in AP classes will help your GPAs, right? On the other hand, wouldn’t AP classes help you get good scores in SATs?

      Furthermore, AP pass rate has been widely used as a criteria to compare high schools, be it US News and World Report or Newsweek. It turns out to be a very objective and reliable indicator.

  18. Anonymous
    3:34 PM on May 6th, 2010

    Thanks, Sarah. You basically just corroborated what John Z. said about how DHS is stuffing kids in AP classes, whether they are truly ready for the faster pacing or not. Good job.

  19. Anonymous
    3:53 PM on May 6th, 2010

    UC Berkeley’s average weighted GPA is 4.35. Do you think Stanford would be worse than this?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Berkeley

    “The average unweighted GPA of admitted freshmen in 2008 was 3.87 (4.35 weighted), and their SAT interquartile ranges were 620-730 (Reading), 650-770 (Math), and 620-730 (Writing). “